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rigidly. What that means is that as women, we
have to let go of some of that rigidity around a
career ladder. We have to be willing to take some
risks. You don't have to know exactly what the
rung of that ladder feels like under your foot.
You have a lot more skills than you give yourself
credit for.

YOU MIGHT FEEL LIKE
CRYING BUT DO YOUR BEST
NOT TO.... IF YOU START TO
TEAR UP, SIMPLY SAY, "THIS IS
VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME" -
THEN LOOK AT YOUR NOTES,
AND ASK FOR THAT RAISE."

me in charge of 250 programmers. His message
was simple: I know you can do this. That was all I
needed.
I have thought many, many times about what
made him such a good manager, and I think it
was because he had four daughters, so he knew
how to manage women. It's an art.

WHAT ADVICE DO YOU HAVE FOR MALE
LEADERS ON MANAGING WOMEN?
Be a good listener. Be fair. Be equitable. And
think about your whole team.
When you're doing a code review, make sure that
everyone at the table participates. March around
the room and ask everybody. Don't listen just to
the noisy voice.

Now on the other tough conversation about
money, I say: "Go to Glassdoor or an internal tool,
find out what you're worth. Then, go talk to your
manager. You might feel like crying but do your
best not to. Have the two or three points that
you want to make on an old fashioned 3 x 5 card.
If you start to tear up, simply say, 'This is very
difficult for me' - then look at your notes, and
ask for that raise. But do your homework first."

WHEN YOU'RE DOING A
CODE REVIEW, MAKE SURE
THAT EVERYONE AT THE
TABLE PARTICIPATES. MARCH
AROUND THE ROOM AND ASK
EVERYBODY. DON'T LISTEN
JUST TO THE NOISY VOICE.

WHAT ADVICE DO YOU HAVE FOR WOMEN
TRYING TO FIND WORK-LIFE BALANCE?
I DIDN'T KNOW A BYTE FROM
AN OVERBITE

WHAT IS THE BEST PIECE OF ADVICE
YOU HAVE RECEIVED FROM ONE OF
YOUR MENTORS?
I had a terrific manager when I was at Norwest
Bank. I had no technology background - I didn't
know a byte from an overbite - but my manager,
Bob Holger, thought that I could manage
software developers: I knew banking, I knew law,
and I was a very good manager. And so he put
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You have to focus. In our family, my husband
and I focused on our two girls and our jobs. That
was it. I have golf clubs in my garage that have
probably moved to eight different cities, and I
have tennis rackets but they haven't gotten out
much. And because of our focus, we don't have
the breadth of friendships other people have.
You make your choices.
Also, we made some non-traditional choices.
Michael was the Girl Scout leader. He baked the
brownies because I was in Hong Kong or Sydney
or Paris. We were flexible in our roles but we also
did not try to do everything.



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